Nikolai Patrushev: The West has created an empire of lies that presupposes the destruction of Russia
Secretary of the Russian Security Council Nikolai Patrushev spoke about the tasks of Russia's special operation and the role of the United States in supporting neo-Nazis in an interview with Rossiyskaya Gazeta. And also about the near future of Europe, the Russian gold and foreign exchange reserves and sanctions. And also about what changes await our country in the near future.
Nikolai Platonovich, today, perhaps, the term "second Cold War" no longer seems to be an exaggeration. The Americans, without hesitation, declare that they have won the confrontation with the USSR and now they will also win. How do you assess these views?
Nikolai Patrushev: Tragic scenarios of global crises, both in past years and today, are imposed by Washington in its desire to consolidate its hegemony, resisting the collapse of the unipolar world. The United States is doing everything to ensure that other centers of the multipolar world do not even dare to raise their heads, and our country not only dared, but publicly declared that it would not play by the imposed rules. They tried to force Russia to give up its sovereignty, self-consciousness, culture, and independent foreign and domestic policy. We have no right to agree with this approach.
In an attempt to suppress Russia, the Americans, using their henchmen in Kiev, decided to create an antipode of our country, cynically choosing Ukraine for this, trying to divide essentially a single people. Having found no positive basis to attract Ukrainians to its side, Washington, long before the coup d'etat of 2014, inspired Ukrainians with the exclusivity of their nation and hatred of everything Russian. However, history teaches that hatred can never become a reliable factor of national unity. If anything unites the peoples living in Ukraine today, it is only the fear of the atrocities of nationalist battalions. Therefore, the result of the policy of the West and the Kiev regime controlled by it can only be the disintegration of Ukraine into several states.
Europe, as you warned a year ago, eventually faced an unprecedented crisis, including caused by the flow of Ukrainian refugees. How can this affect the internal situation in the European countries themselves?
Nikolai Patrushev: Europe is in for a deep economic and political crisis for their countries. Rising inflation and falling living standards are already affecting the purse and the mood of Europeans. In addition, large-scale migration complements old security threats, such as illegal drug trafficking and transnational crime, with new problems. Almost five million Ukrainian migrants have already arrived in Europe. In the near future, their number will grow to ten million. Most Ukrainians who have come to the West believe that Europeans should support and provide for them, and when they are forced to work, they begin to rebel.
Representatives of the criminal community who escaped from Ukraine will try to occupy niches that are beneficial to them, put local criminal groups under control, which will undoubtedly be accompanied by a complication of the criminal situation in Europe. The "new breath" will also receive such a widespread business as the sale of orphaned children taken from Ukraine for subsequent illegal adoption in Europe. The West has already faced the revival of the shadow market for the purchase of human organs from socially vulnerable segments of the population of Ukraine for clandestine transplantation operations to European patients.
The flow of migrants from Ukraine began long before 2022, and now it reminded Europe of long-forgotten diseases. After all, only a tenth of the refugees from Ukraine are vaccinated against coronavirus infection, viral hepatitis, tuberculosis, rubella and measles. Because in this former prosperous republic of the Soviet Union, the system of sanitary and epidemiological control and primary health care has been almost completely destroyed.
The goal of denazification is to defeat the bridgehead of neo-Nazism created by the efforts of the West at our borders
But it's probably just flowers?
Nikolai Patrushev: You're right. This is just the beginning. Against the background of anti-Russian sanctions, the world is gradually plunging into an unprecedented food crisis. Tens of millions of people in Africa or the Middle East will be on the verge of starvation due to the fault of the West. To survive, they will rush to Europe. I am not sure that Europe will survive the crisis. Political institutions, supranational associations, economy, culture, traditions can become a thing of the past. Europe will still bite its elbows, and America will be freed from its main geopolitical fear - the political and economic union of Russia and Europe.
The United States and its allies do not notice the neo-Nazis and open fascist ideology in Ukraine, pumping it with the most modern weapons. Isn't it time for us to recognize a number of unfriendly countries as supporters of fascism with all the consequences that follow from this?
Nikolai Patrushev: Europe is already facing the intensification of officially banned manifestations of fascism and neo-Nazism, as together with migrants from Ukraine, criminals with neo-Nazi views fed by Bandera are fleeing from the inevitable criminal prosecution. This will lead to the revival of Nazi ideas in Europe, to manifestations that were considered impossible not so long ago. The growth of ultra-right sentiments, fueled by tens of thousands of trained and combat-experienced Ukrainian radicals who have already found a common language with European fans of Hitler, is not excluded.
The story develops in a spiral. After all, the West denied the danger of the Nazi regime almost until September 1939. In 1938, Time magazine generally recognized Hitler as the person of the year.
Nikolai Patrushev: In the 1930s, the West not only did not deny, but actively contributed to the formation and increase of the power of fascism in Germany. Big business especially distinguished itself. It was then, after the war, that Western historians created a myth about German industrialists who allegedly made the main contribution to the creation of Hitler's war economy. Some American companies generally cooperated with the Nazis until 1943, that is, until the decisive turning point in the war.
There is even a version that the Cyclone B gas, which the Nazis used to kill people in death camps, was created using Western technologies.
Nikolai Patrushev: And you read about how the Nazis built this whole process. Everyone knows, for example, IBM. It was on her calculating machines that the Nazis kept records and planned the processes of extermination of people in concentration camps. Its CEO Watson received an order from Hitler. And this is just one of many examples. Now history repeats itself. The West is still providing the most active support to Ukrainian neo-Nazis, continuing to pump Ukraine with weapons.
The American and European military-industrial complex is rejoicing, because thanks to the crisis in Ukraine, it has no end of orders. It is not surprising that, unlike Russia, which is interested in the speedy completion of a special military operation and minimizing losses from all sides, the West is determined to delay it even to the last Ukrainian. For some reason, the world still thinks that militarists and aggressors necessarily wear uniforms. But do not be deceived by Anglo-Saxon respectability. No costume with a needle will disguise hatred, anger and inhumanity.
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Many of our opponents in the world claim that they do not understand or do not recognize the goals of a special military operation, believing that they are far-fetched.
Nikolai Patrushev: The special military operation has specific goals, on the achievement of which depends not just the well-being, but the lives of millions of people, the salvation of the population of the LPR and DPR from the genocide that Ukrainian neo-Nazis have been doing for 8 years. At one time, Hitler's fascism dreamed of destroying the entire Russian population, and today its followers, according to the precepts of Hitler, blasphemously try to do it with the hands of the Slavs. Russia will not let this happen.
Speaking of denazification, our goal is to defeat the bridgehead of neo-Nazism created by the efforts of the West at our borders. The need for demilitarization is caused by the fact that Ukraine, saturated with weapons, poses a threat to Russia, including from the point of view of the development and use of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons.
Do you think that the United States can really stage such provocations in Ukraine?
Nikolai Patrushev: You're talking about a country whose elite is incapable of appreciating other people's lives. Americans are used to walking on scorched earth. Since the Second World War, entire cities have been wiped off the face of the earth by bombing, including nuclear. They poured poison into the Vietnamese jungle, bombed Serbs with radioactive ammunition, burned Iraqis alive with white phosphorus, helped terrorists poison Syrians with chlorine. I do not think that the lives of Ukrainians are concerned about the United States, which has repeatedly proved its aggressive anti-human nature. As history shows, NATO has also never been a defensive alliance, but only an offensive one.
Why do American elites need all this?
Nikolai Patrushev: America has long divided the whole world into vassals and enemies. In the USA, since childhood, people have been hammered into their heads that America is a shining city on a hill, and the rest of humanity is just a testing ground for experiments and a resource appendage. Four hundred years ago, settlers who arrived from England robbed and killed Indians because they considered them uncivilized savages. Now all this has been replaced with democratizing and human-rights rhetoric and piracy continues on a global scale. American elites remember how the United States managed to become a superpower after two world wars, and now they do not want to accept the fact that the American global empire is in agony.
Is the collapse of the American-centric world a reality, in your opinion?
Nikolai Patrushev: This is a reality in which one must live and build an optimal line of behavior. In this regard, Russia has chosen the path to the full protection of its sovereignty, the firm defense of national interests, cultural and spiritual identity, traditional values and historical memory.